Marital Matters

Personal stories about marital matters and separation issues.

January 10, 2007

husband vetoes another baby

Janelle is 38 and had two children when she was very young. Now that they're growing up and preparing for college, Janelle is contemplating having another baby before she is too old to do so but her husband is against the idea.

"I'm still young and I have a good chance of falling pregnant," says Janelle, "but my husband is horrified at the thought of having a pregnant wife again and the children, of course, are aghast at the thought of having a brother or sister old enough to be their own child."

"I'm sure they'll love the baby when it comes," sighs Janelle. "but without my husband's co-operation I'm out on a limb."

"George, my husband, is mainly concerned about financial matters," says Janelle. "He's especially afraid that I might lose my job, or be demoted in it, once I become pregnant."

"Some countries have laws requiring employers to award women from 6 to 12 weeks of paid maternity leave if they have been employed continuously in a full-time capacity for more than 12 months and they're guaranteed continuity of their jobs when they return to work," says Janelle, "but I'm not in that lucky position."

"I know, too, that some companies award women these rights, without being required by law to do so," says Janelle, "but not the company I work for!"

"I'd say that women in most countries and most industries are still fighting an uphill battle just to require employers to grant any length of unpaid maternity leave," says Janelle, "and that's going to be my situation if I finally manage to talk George around to giving me another baby."

"Not much has changed since I had my kids in the late 1980s and was required by social pressure to quit my job," says Janelle, "and I do worry that I could lose my income, my seniority and possibly my job, too, should I go ahead and get pregnant."

"The rationale behind paid and unpaid maternity leave," says Janelle, "is that mothers can attend to their infants without worrying about their jobs. And yet I've heard lots of stories about women returning to work even within a 12-week unpaid period of maternity leave finding that their jobs are no longer there."

"Within 12 weeks anything can happen to a company, and often does," sighs Janelle. "There are regular restructures, downsizes and upgrades where I work. Sometimes when I return to work after a short vacation I notice things that have changed, so I could lose my job pregnant or not!"

One solution for Janelle would be to return to work in a part-time capacity, but not all employers want the bother of having to recruit another person to do the other half of the job that a woman with responsibility for a baby can no longer do.

"I'd rather remain in full-time employment," says Janelle. "Not just to keep George happy with the money I earn but also because I don't want to lose my seniority."

"I know George is worried about money," says Janelle, "but discrimination against pregnant moms is now against the law. Sure, a lot of employers get around the law by instituting a restructure that makes a pregnant woman's job redundant but people get made redundant all the time, pregnant or not."

"Some companies are really enlightened and provide crèches, mother's rooms for breastfeeding breaks and even ensure that women on maternity leave are kept in touch with what's happening at work in order to ease their return," says Janelle, "and I regret that I'm not working for a company like that."

"If I go ahead and talk George into have another baby," muses Janelle, "I have to take a lot of things into consideration. Firstly, the attitude of my employer who may feel that a pregnant woman's place is in the home, not the office; secondly the attitude of my younger co-workers who, like my children, are likely to feel that I'm too old to have another baby; thirdly, the very tricky business of finding suitable childcare if I stay in my job; fourthly, the physical and psychological changes of motherhood; and fifthy, the problem of less money coming in if I lose my job."

"George is mainly concerned about money," explains Janelle, "and that could be a big problem but it's not a given that I am going to lose my job. If I did lose my job, then that's that, but just by taking time off work to have a baby I'm aware that any time off work - maternity leave, sick leave, extended holidays or leave to take care of a sick relative - deprives women of that continuity that is so necessary to be considered for perks, promotion and highly specialized projects."

"I'm well aware, despite George reminding me, that I don't have the youth I had twenty years ago to enable me to work my way up in another job," sighs Janelle. "At 38, with seventeen years to go before retiring at 55, I wouldn't want to spend those years at the bottom of the employment heap!"

"All things considered I suppose I'm taking a huge personal risk to have another baby," says Janelle, "but, like I tell George, how will I feel when I'm 55 and past it?"

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December 14, 2006

marriage, a supportive partnership


When both Jin and her husband, Rick, found themselves out of work she was thrilled to find another job before their money ran out until she discovered, among other things, that she has to work with a really nasty and abusive co-worker.

"I want to quit, but without my income, we would have to start selling things in order to survive," says Jan, "and while I'm as upset as Rick is at the prospect of having to sell the house and contents we had worked so hard to buy, I am far more concerned about my health and well-being at this new job."

"I have been in the workforce long enough to know that every workplace has its normal share of interpersonal problems. However, in cases where hostility from a boss, manager or co-worker is severely affecting my performance and well-being -  then I know it is not a good idea to stick it out expecting things to change."

"When this sort of thing happened to me in the past," says Jin, "I very quickly and smartly quit the job before real trouble arose. If I follow Rick’s advice and stick it out at my present job I'll eventually crack under the strain of being ‘nice’ and this will result in my future career being tarnished."

"Interpersonal problems at work are always seen as the fault of two people," sighs Jin, "even though one person causes the trouble."

"I’m the last born in my family and I got blamed for everything. My eldest sister was particularly good at making me her fall guy. Be damned if I’m going to be made a scapegoat at work for something that is not my fault."

Jin feels that her best option is to quit immediately on some pretext, rather than stick it out and end up having a blow-up with the co-worker that will ruin her prospects of finding another job easily.

"Rick disagrees with me and says I'm lucky to get a job and shouldn’t let the co-worker affect me," sighs Jin, "but if the shoe were on the other foot I'd be telling Rick to get out of that place as fast as he can."


"Why can't he see how this job is affecting me?"

Jin is now not only stressed out at work dealing with an abusive co-worker, but she's also fighting Rick on the home front. She feels he should be supporting her decision to quit, not forcing her to stay at a stressful job; and she also feels he is not trying hard enough to find work and is just sponging on her.

"Easy for him to say I should stick out this lousy job when he’s home watching television," scoffs Jin. "Marriage is supposed to be a supportive partnership, isn't it?"

"If Rick would just show me a little support -- and do something nice for me like cooking dinner before I get home I might be able to stick the job out," says Jin, "but because he's not doing anything to help me, or help himself get a job, I get the feeling that all he cares about is the money I bring home." 

Job loss and job stress are common factors causing marital difficulties - and Jin and Rick will probably weather out their current problems - yet it is interesting that while ‘irreconcilable differences’ is a common basis for divorce it is never used in job resignation. Until it becomes as common a reason for job resignations as it is in divorce, it is an unfortunate fact of working life that people like Jin would rather lie than admit that an interpersonal problem was the main reason for their resignation.

 Read more of Jin's story:

  the workplace ogre


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